First off, the fact that you were able to incorporate so many great gifs and memes to this otherwise very serious post was great!
I've read several of these books when I was between 18-21 years old. And most of these kind of books were pretty repetitive. The idea that women can't initiate anything is ridiculous. Yet, keep in mind, many of these books come from conservative, anti-feminist perspective. So, any idea of a woman taking charge in any situation is frowned upon. These people would totally hate my parents and the women in my family.
BTW, I'm not saying that what you wrote is advocating feminism in anyway whatsoever or at least modern day third day feminism. You balanced everything out very well.
Another things that has always aggravated me is the idea that all men think the same way and all women think the same way. These Christian writers are forever driveling on about how men are more physical than women. Than women crave romance and poetry and are not into the physical aspects of sex and intimacy.
It wasn't until I read what you wrote that I realized how damaging those supposed gender separated ideals were to me growing up. I was an early bloomer. I got my period when I was 10 and therefore, I became sexually mature at a young age. However, I was still very much a little girl. Because I was so shy about the subject of sex, I had a hard time talking to my mother or my sisters about it. So, here I am at 10-11 years old, my body is changing and I have these intense feeling, emotions and worse of all, thoughts that are all sexually beyond my comprehension. I was scared and confused. Without going into too much detail, it led me down some paths that I was completely unaware of how, lets say...controversial. It wasn't until I got older that I begin to understand and then by that time, I was plagued by horrific guilt. I thought that I was filthy and there was something wrong with me. Then I read these books about purity and how woman don't respond to the physical, which left me thinking, "There is something wrong with me! I'm not suppose to feel this way!" Needless to say it's been an on going battle that I struggle with, but to be honest, at almost 30 years old, I've taken the mindset of what I do with my body and my mind is between me and God.
Oh and that letter excerpt from Jim Elliot to Betty...OMG! Jim totally nailed the female porn aspect there. Well done. Yet, Jim can't lay his head down on Betty's lap without getting guilty?? All people are different and imposing how you do things as the right was only causes dissension and aggravation.
If what I've written comes off as too personal, I understand if you choose not to post it. However, you really got many things right and a lot that needed to be said. The Christian Purity movement has done a great deal of damage to girls and women. Putting their emotions and feelings in a box and just ignoring them or guilt tripping them because they don't fall into the proper guidelines of what true Christian womenhood is.
So, here I am at 10-11 years old, my body is changing and I have these intense feeling, emotions and worse of all, thoughts that are all sexually beyond my comprehension. I was scared and confused. Without going into too much detail, it led me down some paths that I was completely unaware of how, lets say...controversial.
The controversy being the discovery of masturbation as a young and very innocent child. A habit I came across one night. I blame Lord of The Rings for it too. The Fellowship of the Ring had just premiered and lent a great deal to my sexual awakening. I was still at that stage where I hated boys with every ounce of my fiber. Growing up with a lot of brothers who aggravated me to no end; and got away with everything while I always got the blame is enough to make any girl an early feminist. Ok, I'll admit I had a crush on a couple of boys in my Sunday School, but it was just fun.
Anyways, I was 10 when The Fellowship of the Ring premiered and all of a sudden I wasn't watching a movie with annoying boys, but with tall, attractive men (thank you Orlando Bloom).** I didn't mind that they were so much older than me. However, due to puberty this sudden interest in older men began to swirl and delve deeper into my subconscious and my early struggle with 'bad thoughts,' were magnified to an extreme. My mind was in absolute sexual overload. I needed a way out, to empty my mind and find some sense of calm and peace. And my body provided that outlet.
That night would be the start of a lifelong struggle and the constant war over 'is it right or wrong?' I never told anybody about my masturbation habit. I was too afraid to. Between 10 and 13 it was just something to ease my hypersexual thoughts and emotions. Then I started reading about what a controversial subject it was and how it was seen of evil and sinful in the church.
It wasn't until I got older that I begin to understand and then by that time, I was plagued by horrific guilt. I thought that I was filthy and there was something wrong with me.
Unfortunately for me, I came to this realization right in the middle of the Purity culture movement. Purity rings, abstinent pledges, courtship vs dating, father/daughter purity balls and of course, the well meaning but ultimately damaging guidebooks to female Christian purity. Need we say anymore on that subject.
Then I read these books about purity and how woman don't respond to the physical, which left me thinking, "There is something wrong with me! I'm not suppose to feel this way!"For years I read these books in hopes that it would better me and cure me of my insatiable nature. Yet, they only guilt tripped me. Over and over again they repeated that "Men are physically attached, women are emotionally attached". I was made to feel like a damaged creature. I never cared about romance or flirting or even the emotion that was so often preached in these books. I didn't want flowers or romantic dates or sweet words. I wanted a guy to kiss me, touch me, make me feel desire and passion and I wanted to do the same in return.
For years I struggled on and off of whether I should tell my mom about my habit. Eventually when I was about 16 or 17 I did. Surprisingly she took it casually and said that I would be fine and hopefully it would pass. I was relieved by this. (Of course no mention of the fanfiction, which I was reading on the family computer). However, my struggle did persist. My mom was as supportive as she could be, but her answer was still to pray and read my Bible. I found this difficult as prayer and Bible reading was associated with my childhood innocence.
And my mom would often tell me that because I was an early bloomer my innocence was still very much a part of me. I would take me longer to mature or let my mind and body catch up with each other. At this point my mind and body were at constant war with each other. A private war that I was fighting alone.
How many times in these Christian purity books was it mentioned that masturbation was essentially stealing your body from your future husband? Young women are dealing with high sex drives and emotions and all they want to to do is guilt trip women and make them believe that a nonexistent man has some claim over your body?? I had gotten that speech too which only angered me more.
Then the final blow came. The moment when I essentially said screw it to God and everyone. My brothers were casually talking to my mom and my sister about masturbation. Both of them replied that it was completely natural and even encourage for guys to do it. I wasn't a part of the conversation, but let me tell you, I was mad as all living hellfire.
If a woman masturbates then she's being unfaithful to her future husband.
If a guy masturbates well then that's just normal. Boys will be boys.
If there is anything that I hate, abhor and despise more, it's double standards. I have lived with double standards my whole life. And that these double standards concerning what was acceptable for men but looked down upon for women came from the mouth of my mother and sister, then my reaction was essentially
My fucking body, my fucking choice
Since then, my habit has become a nonissue for me. I really don't care. Because it has never done any mental or emotional damage to me at all. If anything it's helped me calm down my libido and rid me of guilt and the disdain I had for myself. When guys become interested in me, I take it calmly and casually. I didn't jump at the first guy who looked in my direction and I've become quite a pro at turning guys down.
When I was in college I had fun with guys and not once did I have any sexual reactions. We talked about sex casually with no sexual repercussions. I would put my legs up on their laps and they would tickle me and guess what, I still went home that night a virgin. All these horror stories about how masturbation would damage girls and women and make them so sexually hypersensitive to guys if they touched them, it's absolute bullshit.
Am I advocating that masturbation is right? No. Because everyone is different and people deal with their desires differently. Being a generally closed off person, I could compartmentalize my feelings and not let them control me. Christian society has no right to guilt trip women about their own private decisions. And certainly not force this idea of a future husband-who is not even in their lives yet-and how they should steer every emotion and thought into pleasing him. Women should focus on themselves during their single years. And if a man is unable to accept you for what you have done in the past, then clearly he's the problem. You are better off alone and independent.
Can masturbation be harmful? Yes, I believe so. It depends on how strong the person is and contrary to what people might think, I consider myself a strong person. However, it still remains that a woman's body is her own and even in marriage she still have some autonomous control over it.
Maybe if I had tried to be more open to my mom or my older sisters about sex and my emotions when I was younger then maybe things would have gone differently. Fear of self expression or being looked down on drives people into corners with little to help them. It's taken 20 years, but I'm finally beginning to break out of my shell and release myself of the guilt and the self doubt that society put me through for so long.
Wow. So I cannot believe that I actually just wrote all of this. When I said that I've never ever talked to anyone about this, I mean it. I'm seriously not advocating for masturbation for all people, but I don't think the issue should just be labeled 'BAD AND SINFUL' either. Anything done in excess is damaging. And anything can be controlled too. Eating and drinking isn't wrong. Gluttony and drunkenness is. Taking medicine isn't wrong, but becoming an addict is. I don't think masturbation is necessarily wrong, but it can't take the place of a real, sexual relationship either. And I'm looking forward to that as well. There has to be boundaries in every situation. And it is for the individual, not society to draw their own.
**Also a big shoutout to Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor in Attack of the Clones. Both had their own fair share in my sexual awakening...and now you know the real reason as to why I love that movie.**
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ReplyDeleteFirst off I think your so brave for sharing this. And it’s something that needs to be talked about.
The purity movement is a mess and the double standard always bothered the hell out of me. Like when I was given an uncut key and told to make a notch in it everytime I did something. The boys never had to deal with that bullshit. Let’s keep telling girls their objects and their purity is a commodity, that’s not going to mess them up right.
Like your not supposed to think about sex until your married and then it’s a duty that your not really supposed to like because your a girl. It’s ridiculous!
I hate that we’re told we’re dirty if we even think about it, and boys are told it’s natural and that they can’t control themselves. (Ugh anyway sorry if this sounds like a rant)
I related to so much in this post. I told everyone I was a late bloomer but that’s not really true. I was curious at a fairly young age, I read a lot of books I was too young for and a lot of shows. But always said I hated romance and depending on the type that’s still kinda true. I pretended not to care about boys because I hated how everyone would be like “you like them” so I was like nope.
I hate that I felt like I had to hide any kind of interest because they make you think it’s dirty.
(I love that Legolas was responsible for so many Christian girls sexual awakening. Myself included, like you go Orlando XD)
To all those double standards, fuck off.
Excellent post!
I can't begin to tell you how terrified I was to write this post! Even now, I'm scared about what people might think about me. I mean that's how deep and intense this constant shame and guilt is. I never went full force into the purity movement.
DeleteI always thought purity rings and pledges were stupid because seriously it's just metal and words. They can't keep you safe from the dangers in the world. In a marriage, you have someone by you that is going to (hopefully) support and protect you. But with the whole purity pledge thing, you're basically on your own. I had a purity ring for no other reason than I thought it was pretty!
Boys always had the easy way out! I wrote a post about this issue eons ago--2012, January "Modesty, Romance and Everything in Between," highlighting the same issues we're still talking about today! I'm am not going to be held accountable for every thought that enters a guy's head! We're always made to feel sorry for the poor, hypervisual boys and men who can't control themselves, but slut shame women for being sexual beings. It still aggravates me to no end! I'm not saying that women should go around dressed like sluts, but a woman cannot always be held accountable for what a man is not able to endure.
Rant all you want, I get it %100. Society, both secular and Christian have screwed women up to no end. The third wave feminist movement has destroyed any respect for modern thinking women, while the fundementalist Christian movement has essentially lied and abused women, putting them in a box and making them believe that their purity is the only value they have.
I hated the fact that I was an early bloomer. Growing up I just thought about sex all the time! I would sneak into the adult fiction section of bookstores, just to flip through and read the sex scenes. It was an adrenaline rush for me, even though I knew it was wrong. Sex scenes in movies don't bother me either. Oftentimes I find them calming or even funny. Just a man and women doing what's natural. They never had a negative effect on me at all.
I just always found romance to be be so fake! I hate it when guys flirt with me. It makes me feel like a dog. In my mind romance is just the fattening of the lamb that will eventually be led to the slaughter (i.e. marriage). However, as soon as the ring is on the finger, the romance ends. So why bother in the first place?
I didn't have a problem telling people I liked boys, though. I was thoroughly boy crazy growing up with no shame whatsoever. I just didn't lead on to what was really going on in my mind about them.
Thank you so much for your comment! This post was so nervewracking, but I now I feel so much relief and you're were able to relate to so much of my experiences as well!
I completely understand. It's a topic people usually avoid, I'm happy you didn't. People can be awful. Just know your not alone. I didn't really either, just my mom was super into it.
DeleteMe too. I knew lots of people who had them, who didn't care anyway so it really doesn't mean much. Exactly, it's not something that you should have to so alone. I thought it was too.
They really do. Oh, I'll have to read that. Yes, you shouldn't be they need to be accountable for their own problems. I always hated that. True, you should be aware of what your wearing, but that is not where the problem stems from.
I appreciate that. It really has. It's sad how it comes from everywhere.
Aww, that would have been super hard, it wasn't as much of a struggle for me. But I did have my moments and then would feel insanely guilty about it. I get that. It is natural, I still tend to skip them but to each their own.
Oh same! I love banter but when their just hitting on you and clearly only interested for that one thing, you do feel like a dog. XD It kinda is really. I know, everyone falls out of love once they get married, at least that's what everyone says.
I wish I didn't go through that, it kept me from even talking to them. I don't care now.
Your welcome! I figured it must have taken a lot to post. I'm so glad you did though.
Yeah, it's nice to be able to talk about it, especially to another Christian. Because for awhile I just thought I was the problem and not the dumb things we're taught, that aren't really biblically based anyway. <3
This post is absolutely fantastic. You've said so many things that I've wanted to say, but didn't know how to say. I'm a late bloomer (I don't think I even had a bonafide crush on anyone until I was at least thirteen), but there is definitely a double standard when it comes to sex, and it bothers me so much. It's treated as sinful when women think about or enjoy sex, but for men it's natural. I hate that.
ReplyDeleteAnd, while we're on the topic of controversy, there have been plenty of times where things people have said things similar to this to me that made me incredibly anxious at all times about the possibility of sinning. It had never entered my mind until about a year ago that maybe there wasn't anything wrong with me. Maybe the problem was with the things I was being taught. Of course I do believe that there are plenty of things that are sin, but there are some things I was constantly being told was sin or dirty wasn't really.
Sorry for the long comment. This is just an issue that was affected me a lot, and that I'm very passionate about.
Great post. I'm so glad you wrote this.
This isn't the first time I've written about society's double standards, but it is the most personal I've gotten. God created both men and women to be sexual, he didn't then just say "men can enjoy sex sex, while women are subjugated to that enjoyment."
DeleteThe difficulty is that there is no in-between in situations like this. It's either right or it's wrong. You said 'anxious all the time about the possibility of sinning.' So do you feel anxious about what you're doing or about people's opinions of what you're doing? That's really what it comes down to. With my issue, I never had a problem until I had read that it was a controversial subject. It wasn't doing anything damage to me, mentally or emotionally. After I found out what an issue it was, then it became a problem of conscience. People say it's wrong, but nobody can really explain why.
Don't apologize about the long comments. It's the only way we can communicate on here. I wish Blogger would add a messenger function!
Thank you so much! I'm glad that I wrote it now and that people are able to come here and say what they've been wanting to say.
I hope to be able to return soon and leave a longer comment, but for now I just need to say:
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the bravest, most important things I have ever read, and I cannot thank you enough for writing and sharing it.
I was hoping you would come by. I wasn't sure if you would appreciate being linked to such a personal post dealing with such a controversial subject. However, a great deal of thanks goes to you. Had it not been for your original post, pointing out the damage that Purity culture has done to a generation of women, then I would have never taken a serious look at my teenage age years and realize how much damage was done to me. So thank you for opening up my eyes and making me address so many issues I was afraid to come to terms with.
DeleteThis is possibly the bravest and frightening thing I've ever written. Yet now, I feel such a sense of relief, finally acknowledging that I'm not the problem, I'm not to blame and I'm capable of making he best decisions for myself.
I know it's taken me over a year, but I've never forgotten about this post and have always maintained my desire to come back and comment more fully.
DeleteBelieve me, I'm honored more than anything else that you linked to my post in this one. I'm deeply grateful that my post was of any help to you, and I'm even more grateful for this post and how helpful it would be for so many girls and women who have been shamed and vilified for their sexuality.
As a teenager, I just assumed that masturbation was always (and severely) wrong, because that's what I was told. Now I have a much more nuanced view of it, and as of now I really do think that it's a personal decision made between an individual and God, based on that individual's conscience and convictions. (Also, as others have pointed out, if masturbation is such a heinous sin for single people, does that mean it's wrong for married couples as well? And if so, why would it be?)
"It's taken me a while to admit, but I was born with a high sex drive." THIS. Why is it so hard for us as Christian women to just admit that we have fairly high libidos? Oh, wait, I remember why -- because we're told every moment of every day that guys are sexual carnivores and women are sexless romantics.
"Between the ages of 8 and 10, I began to have strong, sexual thoughts and feelings. I didn't understand them, but I knew instinctively that they were wrong. Or at least my Christian faith that I was raised in would have seen it as sinful." This, too. It's such a frightening and guilt-ridden thing when you begin to experience sexual thoughts and feelings.
"I never cared about romance or flirting or even the emotion that was so often preached in these books. I didn't want flowers or romantic dates or sweet words. I wanted a guy to kiss me, touch me, make me feel desire and passion and I wanted to do the same in return." OH, GIRL, THIS!!! I HATE that women are taught in Christian circles that men naturally have completely uncontrollable sexual urges, but that women only experience sexual urges within marriage or because they're nymphomaniacs, or dysfunctional, or perverted. IT IS SO SICK. And I am sick and tired of it. Female sex drives can be every bit as strong as male sex drives. Stop pretending that they can't.
"How many times in these Christian purity books was it mentioned that masturbation was essentially stealing your body from your future husband? Young women are dealing with high sex drives and emotions and all they want to to do is guilt trip women and make them believe that a nonexistent man has some claim over your body??" Yes, this?!?! Like, no?? My body does not prematurely "belong" to some hypothetical future husband??
Ooh, boy, the double standard with guys and girls when it comes to masturbation, etc. Sexual acts (and/or sexual immorality) do not come more naturally to men than they do to women. Men are not inherently more sexual than women are.
"When I was in college I had fun with guys and not once did I have any sexual reactions. We talked about sex casually with no sexual repercussions. I would put my legs up on their laps and they would tickle me and guess what, I still went home that night a virgin. All these horror stories about how masturbation would damage girls and women and make them so sexually hypersensitive to guys if they touched them, it's absolute bullshit." PREACH PREACH PREACH PREACH PREACH
^^ Guess what, Elisabeth Elliot? Sitting on a guy's lap is not tantamount to sex.
Ugh. This is all just so good. Absolutely one of the best posts I've ever read in my life. Cannot applaud you highly enough for this.
What has truly surprised me is how many girls and young women have been experiencing the exact same issues. As I said, the fact that I didn't care about flirting or romance, but was craving the sexual and physical aspect of a relationship instead always made me feel that I was less than a natural born women.
ReplyDeleteDid it mean I was more masculine to have such a high sex drive?
That from the time I was 10 years old I frequently thought about sex and sexual activity so that must make me less of a good Christian?
That my difficult history with masturbation and the Church's shaky stand on it made me believe that I would never be loved or wanted?
And the double standards Jesus Christ and all the saints Don't get me started on that.
I look back and am shocked and appalled that people (including my own mother) thought that guilt tripping young women and telling them that their value is only in saving their bodies for their husbands was suppose to help in any way. My value and worth is (and never will be) found in the opinion of a man. Christian or otherwise.
I'm so glad you came back and I truly appreciate how you inspired me and how this post is becoming an inspiration to others.